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hello uh Mr Carl what yeah uh this is

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Ryan Warrior uh I'm from Akron calling

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from Akron and I'm with the uh flying

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Crosser investigating committee here I I

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suppose you've had yourself this kind of

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call haven't you oh okay yeah I have so

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we were real real interested in your

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story because uh the uh Cleveland Plains

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dealer carried One account and then they

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pick a journal trade another account

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yeah and uh I was quite enough to have

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you a few minutes to share with us there

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yeah

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all right uh would you tell me when the

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uh original story uh occurred I like to

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explain something to see uh I don't know

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uh what you heard or uh

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but uh

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benefit of uh biography

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otherwise and

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and uh we are certainly uh not laboring

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anything coaches outside you know

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because we've had too much experience

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with the whole relationship with UFOs in

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close contact uh yeah but uh would you

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would you briefly just tell me what the

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whole background story is

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well uh

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um

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field

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Management Field and uh

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long

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take a blood filter around like a filter

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and the front come after block party the

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color was dark Jay and approximately

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that's the no March the 31st had to run

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upon a similar top of it in a little

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uh just close to the house and uh after

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the president

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or something

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or sometimes

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21st

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and uh on April the 11th

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of this uh

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investigation and none of them will tell

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me the Air Force anybody what it was

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when I was just Mr Atlantic uh talk with

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you personally he didn't stand no uh

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yeah

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the best fan

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they wouldn't tell me what it was so I

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still around this area on April the 11th

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I got on a wall

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and then put back in that middle one and

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it's the darkest the long drawn-out

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Burger you don't want to know where you

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actually in Space the only the only uh

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answer I feel bad was changed

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and now they were definitely true and I

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how did you make the transfer between

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objects

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roughly it was uh roughly corrugated

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metal

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and it was a small one was from the wall

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I don't know where it went into the

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paper but it was from the wall in the

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fall and how long did this transaction

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take

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uh

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now we're worth the representatives from

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is about 46 miles from where I live

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you know there's some very interesting

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people over there at Kelly Air Force

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three years ago

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uh over uh San Antonio

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yeah

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so uh actually then uh What uh in the

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lie detector tests and what actually uh

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altered your story

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well

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um I was going through the process of uh

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uh Thanksgiving and it doesn't matter

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and uh

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I'll just uh I believe

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they got Windows going on

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and uh

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invested on some type of evaluation

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right after that about a week 10 days

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something like that after that

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to uh

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the corporation for apartment values and

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uh the following is

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set up for three or four days

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and we had it set up for five o'clock

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Monday afternoon well the associated

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manual practice

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and say

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11 o'clock tonight

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and uh I agree

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let's say about uh

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that uh stated that if I went through a

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photograph there my family would be

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great dangerous

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however I didn't know what maybe the

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kids or something like that and uh

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I didn't think too much about it

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and about Santa Claus they called me and

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told me who had set up for 11 o'clock at

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the morning

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roughly 425 miles from here until I got

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up early and left about 7 30 and I had

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went

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and the woman

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handed down in an officer length now

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off the plane

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and stop

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and after that brought them but I heard

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another one and a brown

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and uh they told me to get by and went

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through with the photographs that I

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always make it back

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and uh money on paragraph test and

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and uh

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uh I I have no experience I've had no

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experience photographs or

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anything on that order and he said I

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could come up with anything like that

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uh myself

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so uh then all the discussions the doors

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all about the diapers

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down

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and the examiner after the private

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defensive

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I said well I come out on TV

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and just give a short statement that I

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what did you actually take the test

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yeah

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it was time for you to ask me a question

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that uh

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was uh relevant to that I was thinking

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and uh

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the uh

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uh attention I didn't know where that

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that our lives

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automobiles

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uh did you tell them ahead

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of the calendar

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well uh

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uh uh this win he was the examiner and

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Jordan statement and then towards the

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Associated Press was left out there to

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reveal uh that time to do the fact that

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and uh as soon as I got home I called a

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police department and reported them

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man

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and uh his Highway gets done by a house

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and there's a car set down from the

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house for 500 yards back to this thing

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the last of what happened that morning

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behind the storm shelter

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running slow

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and there are no light went on up

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somewhere turned around

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and uh they buy a great job

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but I started shooting at a battle for

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and uh

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uh they have as bad happen I just want

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to get it told what it happened

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no did you have any bullets that have

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lost anywhere near you

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uh no

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turned around

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but uh we didn't find this place

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and you don't have any evidence that you

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official investigation out of this and

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I guess it's about an hour after

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something like that I got a phone call

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Morgan did not get it stirred up again

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however it's out of my hands of people

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investigation passed again and uh a real

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convenience

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have you made copies of the photos

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yourself because no you don't have

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anything at all do you no

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I have I have a certified mail you know

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and they promised to send them back to

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you yeah

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I would assume the university will keep

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the word on that yeah I I wouldn't have

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done quite for sure if other agencies

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have gotten that's what I think they

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would yeah well they think to look at it

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with open Fine Arts eight three

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let's see the one that will assist here

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by condom is uh

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uh Captain Robert

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another one

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that's the Fatal quarter

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and uh

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video

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if you would please

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or whatever I've talked to in that

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project

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started with work

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and a touchdown picked up turn around

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Place back and there was crap about the

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36 Long

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uh plastic

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on top of it and the door was open

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and uh one of them

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let's go and let you take your physical

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job

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well I had I had two children get on

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this round to your foot

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um

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in any way

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and they said no

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and I'm

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considered by me but

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they said we're running directly back

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so they stepped out the other two step

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back in the door and sat down south

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deposit whatever it was and I wouldn't

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accept

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came over and uh

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and they were upstairs

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and uh

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uh better control panel that's close to

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one of them they all went out went over

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and uh

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Alexander was the positional and I was

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thrown back against the physics going

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back here uh

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got it slowed down and got that door

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stopped some way and uh come over there

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that uh

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control panel and uh

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it uh I feel for them through

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and uh just the short time after it

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and uh final election for roughly a

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minute

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and uh

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we had to move or traveled to roughly

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out there

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for now I was dressed for uh but uh he

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might have got down 30 35 degrees cold

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and when it started getting so uh

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it took roughly 10 minutes to get back

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to the temperature it was when I first

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went in

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well uh we traveled for about 20 minutes

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and uh

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they told things every year and just a

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from the side of the uh process between

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foreign

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on APM

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play it back and reveal the tunnel or a

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uh corrugated

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and uh

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well he went away

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get through it and

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as we

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went through the other side I turned

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right

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and uh I've been full of

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weapons there's roughly let's say it is

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roughly

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again

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please

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foreign

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that department too

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and uh when I stepped in there

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during the doors

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on March 31st

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survey

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and uh

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um

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completely against this machine

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something like that and they pulled that

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down

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and uh

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um

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and uh

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and when they went together they were

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long flexible academic timetable and out

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of it

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yeah

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and what about everything

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was found uh

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with uh

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well it's not really used down

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control

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practically

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get back and forth

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and uh

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they had to stand in front of us about

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five minutes

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hang around

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environment

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and uh

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and then uh

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always on the time where I've been

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and I kind of turned out

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and instead of got all I can tell now

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and uh

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man

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and um

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with writing sometimes

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favorite ways

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well I couldn't believe anything the

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driving you know

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and uh the paper wave has some type of

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and some type of uh crazy foreign

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and uh

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Department

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of what I'm doing

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uh

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plant projects

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and um